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    Unless you're in the depths of rural Germany.  My village
    (Rehlingen, near Nittel, Rheinland-Pfalz) won't get ADSL for years,
    if ever.  I'm the lucky one in the village, having an ISDN line.  DT
    will not install another one - ever.  A 2OMb download takes around
    10 minutes.  The best the rest of the village can do is a very flaky
    wireless connection to Luxembourg.  I used to live in a bigger
    village in Czech Republic.  There the local telephone exchange was
    analogue and still used pulse-dialling!  Even ISDN was impossible
    there.  I got by with a wireless link direct to Prague, 17Km away. 
    The advertised max range was 10Km.  The connection went down if it
    snowed (all winter near enough) or rained or a bird sat on the
    antenna!<br>
    <br>
    Having said all that, a 20 hour download for AP v2b608 would be
    acceptable! :-D<br>
    <br>
    Regards<br>
    Robin<br>
    Rehlingen village idiot<br>
    <br>
    On 04/02/2011 22:52, Phil Gaskill wrote:
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      <div>Oh, come now. Downloading each beta takes just a few seconds
        more than a minute; installing it similarly takes about thirty
        seconds; and the time limit is, what, a month? I really don't
        think this is a hassle at all, let alone worth complaining
        about.</div>
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      <div>--Phil Gaskill</div>
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        <br>
        On Feb 04, 2011, at 04:32 PM, Tony Barry
        <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tonybarry@mac.com"><tonybarry@mac.com></a> wrote:<br>
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            <div class="_stretch">Dear Paul,<br>
              <br>
              I respect your interest in making v2 a thing of beauty and
              functional <br>
              integrity. It is a credit to you already.<br>
              <br>
              Please ship, so I don't have to keep downloading these
              time-limited <br>
              betas. As far as I'm concerned, it's ready.<br>
              <br>
              As always, it's your decision.<br>
              <br>
              Respectful regards,<br>
              Tony Barry<br>
              <br>
              On 05/02/2011, at 2:02 AM, Dan Kuchta wrote:<br>
              <br>
              > We have a saying where I work: There comes a time in
              every project <br>
              > when you need to shoot the engineers and ship the
              product. :-)<br>
              ><br>
              > V2 may have a few lingering bugs, and the
              documentation many not be <br>
              > complete, but I think its time to ship. The app is in
              at least as <br>
              > good a shape as any other app I own. You need to get
              some money <br>
              > rolling in from this labor of love. Set it free!
              (well, not FOR <br>
              > free - you know what I mean) ;-)<br>
              ><br>
              > -Dan<br>
              ><br>
              ><br>
              > On Feb 3, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Paul Rodman wrote:<br>
              ><br>
              >> Folks,<br>
              >><br>
              >> AstroPlanner V2.0b100 is now available for
              download from:<br>
              >><br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplanner.net/alphabeta/"
                _mce_href="http://www.astroplanner.net/alphabeta/">http://www.astroplanner.net/alphabeta/</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >><br>
              >> This is a BETA pre-release. This means it is
              still a work in <br>
              >> progress. At this stage, new features are
              unlikely to be added. <br>
              >> This version may contain bugs and
              inconsistencies. Please report <br>
              >> them. Use it at your own risk.<br>
              >><br>
              >> A list of fixes, enhancements and new features is
              given below.<br>
              >><br>
              >> Enjoy,<br>
              >><br>
              >> Paul Rodman<br>
              >><br>
              >> NOTE:<br>
              >><br>
              >> Fixes, Enhancements, etc. in V2.0b100:<br>
              >><br>
              >> [Fixed] 4156: Changing object ID does not change
              observation ID<br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4156.shtml"
_mce_href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4156.shtml">http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4156.shtml</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >> [Fixed] 4131: Clicking FOV Tab after start up.<br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4131.shtml"
_mce_href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4131.shtml">http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4131.shtml</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >> [Fixed] 4160: Delete - CONDITIONAL for Rise/Set
              times will not <br>
              >> allow for deleting of "Circum"<br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4160.shtml"
_mce_href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4160.shtml">http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4160.shtml</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >> [Fixed] 4152: Details field in the Observation DB
              needs a vertical <br>
              >> scroll bar<br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4152.shtml"
_mce_href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4152.shtml">http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4152.shtml</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >> [Fixed] 3249: Downloaded image doesn't
              immediately showup in FoV- <br>
              >> screen<br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/3200/3249.shtml"
_mce_href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/3200/3249.shtml">http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/3200/3249.shtml</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >> [Fixed] 4176: Entering a new observation (default
              item highlighter <br>
              >> for editing)<br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4176.shtml"
_mce_href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4176.shtml">http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4176.shtml</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >> [Fixed] 4163: Export Setting not retained<br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4163.shtml"
_mce_href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4163.shtml">http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4163.shtml</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >> [Fixed] 4117: FOV Hard Crash<br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4117.shtml"
_mce_href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4117.shtml">http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4117.shtml</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >> [Fixed] 4138: FOV Hard Crash<br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4138.shtml"
_mce_href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4138.shtml">http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4138.shtml</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >> [Fixed] 4178: Field of View Tab Zoom Behavior<br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4178.shtml"
_mce_href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4178.shtml">http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4178.shtml</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >> [Fixed] 4150: Listbox.CellTag: Out Of Bounds
              Exception<br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4150.shtml"
_mce_href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4150.shtml">http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4150.shtml</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >> [Fixed] 4153: Opening a Session from the
              Observation DB causes <br>
              >> beginning/ending times to set to the computers
              current time<br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4153.shtml"
_mce_href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4153.shtml">http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4153.shtml</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >> [Fixed] 4145: Restore does not complete all
              restoration activity<br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4145.shtml"
_mce_href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4145.shtml">http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4145.shtml</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >> [Fixed] 4168: User columns not copied to new
              plans<br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4168.shtml"
_mce_href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4168.shtml">http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4168.shtml</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >> [Fixed] 4169: Visibility not updated when
              changing site<br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4169shtml"
_mce_href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4169shtml">http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4169.shtml</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >> [Fixed] 4171: Wrong values shown in user-defined
              fields<br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4171.shtml"
_mce_href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4171.shtml">http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4171.shtml</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >> [Implemented] 4158: Delete - CONDITIONAL<br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4158.shtml"
_mce_href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4158.shtml">http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4158.shtml</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >> [Implemented] 4177: JSON export<br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplannernet/reports/details/4100/4177.shtml"
_mce_href="http://www.astroplannernet/reports/details/4100/4177.shtml">http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4177.shtml</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >> [Implemented] 4166: Search New Object<br>
              >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4166.shtml"
_mce_href="http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4166.shtml">http://www.astroplanner.net/reports/details/4100/4166.shtml</a>><br>
              >><br>
              >><br>
              >> More details can be found on beta page noted
              above. You can also <br>
              >> use the Revision Notes feature in the Help menu.<br>
              >> _______________________________________________<br>
              >> APBeta mailing list<br>
              >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:APBeta@lists.astroplanner.net"
                _mce_href="mailto:APBeta@lists.astroplanner.net">APBeta@lists.astroplanner.net</a><br>
              >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.astroplanner.net/listinfo.cgi/apbeta-astroplanner.net"
_mce_href="http://lists.astroplannernet/listinfo.cgi/apbeta-astroplanner.net">http://lists.astroplanner.net/listinfo.cgi/apbeta-astroplanner.net</a><br>
              ><br>
              ><br>
              > =====================================================<br>
              > I take my wife everywhere. But she keeps finding her
              way back.<br>
              ><br>
              > _______________________________________________<br>
              > APBeta mailing list<br>
              > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:APBeta@lists.astroplanner.net"
                _mce_href="mailto:APBeta@lists.astroplanner.net">APBeta@lists.astroplanner.net</a><br>
              > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.astroplanner.net/listinfo.cgi/apbeta-astroplanner.net"
_mce_href="http://lists.astroplanner.net/listinfo.cgi/apbeta-astroplanner.net">http://lists.astroplanner.net/listinfo.cgi/apbeta-astroplanner.net</a><br>
              <br>
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              APBeta mailing list<br>
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                href="mailto:APBeta@lists.astroplanner.net"
                _mce_href="mailto:APBeta@lists.astroplanner.net">APBeta@lists.astroplanner.net</a><br>
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