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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Test #1<o:p></o:p></span></u></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Created a new empty plan file.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Saved it as NGCV7840#1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Add all 7840 NGC items from the NGC Accurate Catalogue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Made NO changes to the plan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Took 6 seconds to get the Save Window on 64-bit | Took
1 second to get Save Window on 32-bit<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Took 17 seconds to save and close AP on 64 bit
| Took 4 seconds to save and close AP on 32 bit<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Test #2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Created a new empty plan file.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Saved it as NGCV7840#2<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Add all 7840 NGC items from the NGC Accurate Catalogue<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Made the following changes to the plan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Adjusted
the columns to fit the text<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sorted
the plan by Constellation and RA<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Took 31 seconds to get the Save Window on 64-bit | Took
27 second to get Save Window on 32-bit<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Took 18 seconds to save and close AP on 64-bit
| Took 3 seconds to save and close AP on 32 bit<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Note: When I close AP, I use the X in the
upper right corner of the screen to do the save and close.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> Both
the 32 bit and 64 bit Windows 7 systems have roughly the same hardware
specifications.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> apbeta-bounces@lists.astroplanner.net
[mailto:apbeta-bounces@lists.astroplanner.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Rodman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, August 29, 2010 8:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> AstroPlanner Beta Testers<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [APBeta] Slow open/close times in Win 7 64-bit<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Aug 29, 2010, at 2:45 PM, John Switzer wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am seeing a several second
delay (sometimes up to 10 seconds) anytime a plan file is closed. Opening
a plan appears to have improved drastically during the last few beta
releases. When closing a plan, the “closing document” window
opens up immediately and then it takes several seconds before the
“save changes” window opens. This happens only on the 64-bit
system (Home Premium). The 32 bit system is almost
instantaneous. During the wait for the “save changes”
window to appear, the disk I/O flashes continuously. This is true even
for a newly created plan with nothing in it. To do the comparison, I
installed AP on Win 7 32-bit and copied all plans, preferences, etc from the
64-bit system to the 32 bit system.</span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>How big is your plan document file on disk? When you open
it, a copy of it is made to the temporary folder. When you close it, data are
written to the temporary copy and if any changes are noted, the Save Changes
dialog is put up. If you elect to save changes the temporary copy then
overwrites the "real" document.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>This is not the most elegant method of doing things, and is
a legacy of V1 where the plan document format was/is fragile.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Try this for me: create a new untitled document, open the
NGC catalogue and add all 7000+ objects to the plan. Save it. See if that
document does the same "10 second" open/close thing.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Paul R.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My next step is to completely remove AP from the 64-bit system,
and reinstall from scratch. If the issue goes away, I will start adding
my “live” data elements one at a time to see if any are the culprit.</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>John</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>RPEHLM
[mailto:robin@lauryssen-mitchell.com]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Sunday, August 29,
2010 12:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>AstroPlanner Beta
Testers<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [APBeta] Slow
open/close times in Win 7 64-bit</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>I'm not seeing slow open/close times on my Win7Ultimate 64bit
system. What sort of times are you seeing?<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Robin<br>
<br>
On 29/08/2010 18:02, John Switzer wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>I would like to offer my services when you wish address the slow
plan open/close times in Windows 7 64-bit. I have both the 32-bit and
64-bit versions of Windows 7 (Home Premium) on separate computers that are
located in the same room. I have over 40 years of computer experience
that might be of some help in the debug process. Just let me know when
and how I can be of service.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>John Switzer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>FWIW, the slow open/close times are not a problem on my Win 7
32-bit system.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<pre><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span style='color:black'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre><span
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