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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Greg --<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think many of us record after-the-fact, so you’re not
alone there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I haven’t recorded any observations yet in V2 (it’s
not dark here yet), but it does sound like there are some kinks to work out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’d like to see most of the session stuff handled
automatically. If an observation is made within, say, 2 hours of another observation
at the same site, then it’d be nice if they defaulted to the same session
(and didn’t require me to click OK to said default). In other
words, I should have to do something to make it _not_ go into that session.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It’d be cool if the V1 -> V2 conversion tool used a
similar algorithm.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Merging sessions is more of a tough one. Let’s say
that I record an observation at 14:00 and another at 17:00, so it makes two
sessions. If I then record one at 15:00, then all three should go in the
same session according to the algorithm. But the two sessions are already
created, and at that point it probably needs an OK by the user to join them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I suspect the defaulting of the aids and filters is just a bug.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Anyway, just a few thoughts while we’re waiting for Paul
to weigh in....<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-- Jeff.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> apbeta-bounces@lists.astroplanner.net
[mailto:apbeta-bounces@lists.astroplanner.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Paine<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> apbeta@lists.astroplanner.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [APBeta] Observations Feature Questions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I have some questions regarding the entry
of observations and the best method for accomplishing this task. Typically I
record my observations after the actual observation session, not during.
I’m not sure if there is a better, more efficient method then what
I’ve been doing. This is going to be a long, detailed message but that
will help Paul understand the steps I took and hopefully others will learn from
my experience.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I began by creating a 3 object plan then I
selected the Obs tab (I have not saved the plan yet). I selected the 1<sup>st</sup>
object I observed then clicked the + in the lower left corner, entered the date
& time then OK. Site, telescope, EP, visual aid and filter were auto
populated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Was the site, telescope and EP auto
populated because they are selected as the default in resources?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>How do I prevent visual aid and filter from
automatically populating my Barlow and UIC filter? Neither are selected as the
default in resources.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I selected the 2nd object I observed then
clicked the + in the lower left corner, entered the date & time then OK.
The “add observation to session” window appeared with 3 options: 1)
add to current session: untitled (which was grayed out) 2) add to recent
session: site: TBird, Start: yesterday at 9:00 pm and 3) start new session
(which was selected as the default option).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Shouldn’t it have been option 1 or 2
by default?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I selected option 2; add to recent session.
Site, telescope, EP, visual aid and filter were auto populated. I selected the
3rd object I observed then clicked the + in the lower left corner, entered the
date & time then OK. The “add observation to session” window
appeared exactly like the prior time; I again selected option 2; add to recent
session. Site, telescope, EP, visual aid and filter were auto populated.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I chose 15 minutes between each observation
so the start and end time in the obs session data shows 9:00 – 9:30 (#1
at 9:00, #2 at 9:15 & #3 at 9:30).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>How do I enter the fact that I observed #3
for 15 minutes and the session ended at 9:45?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>What is the “end” checkbox for
and how is it used?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I’d like to see the general /
resources area made larger. Currently I only see 2.5 lines without scrolling.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I’d like to see military time as an
option in the obs settings window.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Do you have plans for allowing access to
the obs settings as a tab from the preferences menu item? Seems like a logical
place to find them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Opening the obs database displays, my obs
session displays with a duration of (:30). Each obs entry shows the plan as
Untitled-1.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Should I have saved the plan before
starting to enter my obs? Can that be corrected now? The edit global obs window
doesn’t display the plan name.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Is there a way to name sessions? Or would
you just use the notes field?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Would it be beneficial to include the other
obs session fields (seeing, trans, observer & notes) in the obs sessions
window?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Does anyone see a need for a duplicate
session button? My last two sessions were showing friends the same objects so
that would have helped me but I don’t know how often that would really be
a benefit.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Thanks in advance for your patience.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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