[APBeta] Slow open/close times in Win 7 64-bit

Paul Kemp paul at bluedahlia.co.nz
Sun Aug 29 20:38:18 PDT 2010


Yep,

This replicates the issue.

Paul

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 3:35 PM, John Switzer <jswitzer42 at verizon.net>wrote:

>  Paul,
>
>
>
> I can force this condition by pressing the ”show desktop” button (lower
> right corner of the task bar) in Window 7.  This happens on both the 32bit
> and 64 bit versions.  I have reported this but to Paul R.
>
>
>
> *From:* apbeta-bounces at lists.astroplanner.net [mailto:
> apbeta-bounces at lists.astroplanner.net] *On Behalf Of *Paul Kemp
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 29, 2010 10:43 PM
>
> *To:* AstroPlanner Beta Testers
> *Subject:* Re: [APBeta] Slow open/close times in Win 7 64-bit
>
>
>
> Well,
>
>
>
> I am having real problems with the latest beta.
>
>
>
> AP just disappeared on me. No icon in the taskbar but AP is running. Cannot
> TAB to the application. It just sits there consistently consuming 5 percent
> CPU. AP was not doing anything it was sitting there with a blank plan, then
> I switched to Chrome to read this thread. AP disappeared. On Win 7 64bit.
>
>
>
> Screenshot attached.
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>
> Paul Kemp
>
> 13.1" f5 Reflector with Argo Navis & Paracorr
>
> Auckland, New Zealand
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> 36° 55' 09" South, 174° 43' 30" East
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> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:44 PM, John Switzer <jswitzer42 at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
>
>
> *Test #1*
>
> Created a new empty plan file.
>
> Saved it as NGCV7840#1
>
> Add all 7840 NGC items from the NGC Accurate Catalogue
>
> Made NO changes to the plan
>
> Took 6 seconds to get the Save Window on 64-bit  |  Took 1 second to get
> Save Window on 32-bit
>
> Took 17 seconds to save and close AP on 64 bit        |  Took 4 seconds to
> save and close AP on 32 bit
>
>
>
> Test #2
>
> Created a new empty plan file.
>
> Saved it as NGCV7840#2
>
> Add all 7840 NGC items from the NGC Accurate Catalogue
>
> Made the following changes to the plan
>
> 1.        Adjusted the columns to fit the text
>
> 2.       Sorted the plan by Constellation and RA
>
> Took 31 seconds to get the Save Window on 64-bit  |  Took 27 second to get
> Save Window on 32-bit
>
> Took 18 seconds to save and close AP on 64-bit         |  Took 3 seconds to
> save and close AP on 32 bit
>
>
>
> Note:    When I close  AP, I use the X in the upper right corner of the
> screen to do the save and close.
>
>                 Both the 32 bit and 64 bit Windows 7 systems have roughly
> the same hardware specifications.
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* apbeta-bounces at lists.astroplanner.net [mailto:
> apbeta-bounces at lists.astroplanner.net] *On Behalf Of *Paul Rodman
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 29, 2010 8:02 PM
>
>
> *To:* AstroPlanner Beta Testers
> *Subject:* Re: [APBeta] Slow open/close times in Win 7 64-bit
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 29, 2010, at 2:45 PM, John Switzer wrote:
>
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> I am seeing a several second delay (sometimes up to 10 seconds) anytime a
> plan file is closed.  Opening a plan appears to have improved drastically
> during the last few beta releases.  When closing a plan, the “closing
> document” window opens up immediately and then it  takes several seconds
> before the “save changes” window opens.  This happens only on the 64-bit
> system (Home Premium).  The 32 bit system is almost instantaneous.   During
> the wait for the “save changes” window to appear, the disk I/O flashes
> continuously.  This is true even for a newly created plan with nothing in
> it.  To do the comparison, I installed AP on Win 7 32-bit and copied all
> plans, preferences, etc from the 64-bit system to the 32 bit system.
>
>
>
> How big is your plan document file on disk? When you open it, a copy of it
> is made to the temporary folder. When you close it, data are written to the
> temporary copy and if any changes are noted, the Save Changes dialog is put
> up. If you elect to save changes the temporary copy then overwrites the
> "real" document.
>
>
>
> This is not the most elegant method of doing things, and is a legacy of V1
> where the plan document format was/is fragile.
>
>
>
> Try this for me: create a new untitled document, open the NGC catalogue and
> add all 7000+ objects to the plan. Save it. See if that document does the
> same "10 second" open/close thing.
>
>
>
> Paul R.
>
>
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>
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> My next step is to completely remove AP from the 64-bit system, and
> reinstall from scratch.  If the issue goes away, I will start adding my
> “live” data elements one at a time to see if any are the culprit.
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> *From:* RPEHLM [mailto:robin at lauryssen-mitchell.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 29, 2010 12:29 PM
> *To:* AstroPlanner Beta Testers
> *Subject:* Re: [APBeta] Slow open/close times in Win 7 64-bit
>
>
>
> I'm not seeing slow open/close times on my Win7Ultimate 64bit system.  What
> sort of times are you seeing?
>
> Regards
> Robin
>
> On 29/08/2010 18:02, John Switzer wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
>
>
> I would like to offer my services when you wish address the slow plan
> open/close times in Windows 7 64-bit.  I have both the 32-bit and 64-bit
> versions of Windows 7 (Home Premium) on separate computers that are located
> in the same room.  I have over 40 years of computer experience that might be
> of some help in the debug process.  Just let me know when and how I can be
> of service.
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> John Switzer
>
>
>
> FWIW, the slow open/close times are not a problem on my Win 7 32-bit
> system.
>
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