[APBeta] Problem transferring notes between plans

RPEHLM robin at lauryssen-mitchell.com
Thu Mar 19 23:42:18 PDT 2009


Thanks for taking the trouble to explain.  Will cogitate futher but that 
requires massive injections of caffeine at this time of the morning :).  
Wonder what would happen if a simple copy of the catalogue was made for 
different projects (e.g. AsteroidLC.apcat, AsteroidDist.apcat etc.)?  
Will attempt to give my AP the screaming ebee jeebies later :)

Robin

Hilary Jones wrote:
> I'm not sure I see why in your example you wouldn't want to have the 
> notes about astroid XYZ appear in both the distance and light curve 
> plans.  The kind of information I would want to put there is stuff 
> about the astroid --  maybe its size, magnitude, reputed distance, 
> etc.  If I had measured the distance myself, I would probably want to 
> record that as an observation. But maybe I would put it in the catalog 
> annotation saying "the reputed distance is X but I measured Y", and in 
> this case I don't see any reason why I wouldn't _want_ to see this 
> information in the light curve project too, assuming I thought it was 
> important enough to put in the catalog in the first place.
>
> To my way of thinking, I'm not changing the plan, but rather changing 
> catalog annotation.  I would expect all plans to view a given entry in 
> the catalog the same way.  If I needed to record some notes that were 
> specific to the plan, I would probably use an observation.  Or perhaps 
> AstroPlanner could be modified to have two ways of taking notes: some 
> that pertain to the object, and some that pertain to the plan.  That's 
> getting rather fancy for my tastes; but perhaps it's the best way to 
> satisfy both of our needs.
>
> As for using an option to enable or disable this feature, I see some 
> implementation problems.  If we regard the change as a change to the 
> catalog itself, then the data only has to be kept in one place.  But 
> if there's an option of keeping the information in the catalog and/or 
> the plan, then we get into the mess that we had with global 
> observations.  (I realize you wouldn't _really_ want to record the 
> annotations in the catalog file itself. So when it got down to 
> implementation details, the annotations would go somewhere in some 
> sort of "catalog addendum" file.  Logically it would be part of the 
> original catalog, but physically it would be in a separate file.)
>
> Take care,
> Hilary
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RPEHLM" 
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [APBeta] Problem transferring notes between plans
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>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I'm a bit bothered by this.  I don't like the idea of AP changing a 
>> plan that I have not specifically asked it to.  Maybe an example 
>> would make my concern clearer.  Two plans open, first is for an 
>> asteroid light curve project, second is for an asteroid distance 
>> measuring project.  Same asteroids could be in both plans.  I 
>> definately don't want AP changing the asteroid light curve plan just 
>> because I make a change to the asteroid distance project plan!  Could 
>> this behaviour be subject to a checkbox in Preferences somewhere?
>>
>> Or am I misunderstanding something?
>>
>> Regards
>> Robin
>>
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